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Farley reportedly came back to pick up the Plaster of Paris replica, my friend told me he had an opportunity to make some pictures of the replica. Runic messages often read from right to left. Germanic Philology, Johns Hopkins Univ. Woodard, and These very important historical monuments, graves,and archeologogical relics were notc reated by any Pre Columbian Scandinavian or Irish. Average Energy, Somewhat Dominant. My earliest writings about the monumental directional indicators stand corrected in my most recent publications.

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Monge, Alf and O. Before the thawing of the Cold War. Unlike Knirk, and most others who have ever vetured opinions about the Heavener Runestone, I have taken well into the hundreds of photographs of the actual monument, and closeups of many tiny, engraved details, under many differing lighting conditions, even when that protective, glaring, partially obstructive, plastic shield had been removed For replacement due to vandalism. For that, she must forever be honored at that site. Great Danes should be well trained as puppies.

McDonald personally told me in E Mail communications that he has vivid memories of Dr. Gum making that assertion about death place for La Salle. Something similar is mentioned by Dr. In that article Professor Dr. About thirty years ago, historian Ert J. Gum, professor of French history at the University of Nebraska, Omaha, reported at a meeting of the East Texas Historical Association that a search of French records had convinced him that the foul deed had been done in eastern Oklahoma.

I was unaware of Dr. Gum's studies and lectures until well after I had come to my own independent conclusions. He and I, as two different doctoral level historians, independently arrived at our convictions via our studies of old French and Spanish records.

Gum's suggestion of La Salle's death as probably having happened near Cameron, Oklhoma about 17 miles northeast of Heavener was a good guess. Gumdid not ever get around to issuing more detailed and documented data because of fatal heart attack, not so long afterward to that lecture. One of La Salle' scompanions Lieutenant Henri Joutel wrote his own extensive, diary-like, written and published, Journal available in at least two different English translations.

He wrote that the last march of La Salle took the expedition, after about six weeks of travel, through some difficult-to-negotiate --or even to detour--"rocky cliffs"and "a high mountain.

In my book, Secret La Salle Monument , p. In my year introduction of those words from Joutel, I wrote: That describes places in Ouachita Mountains, but not in East Texas. What Joutel described was a large swampy area, in a valley, North of the Red River.

Difficult rocky clifs and mountain, not far northeast of marshy land, is a description of terrain that is found absolutely nowhere northeastward from Matagorda Bay Texas, till one crosses the Red River into Southeastern Oklahoma. I have personally criss-crossed that East Texas terrain many times and have often checked with local residents all over East Texas. There are no difficult to negotiate rocky clifs till one is on the northern side of the Red River.

Coprighted Photograph, Lee W. Pierre Meunier's Mexican Courtroom Testimony. Meunier had been with and sometimes awol from La Salle's Expeditions during , and till or at the latter's death in Meunier had absconded from the first La Salle Expedition, which had reached all the way to modern day Van Buren, Arkansas during Eventually, Meunier was captured by the Spanish about , when he had migrated back toward the Gulf Coast and south of the Red River.

In his sworn testimony, he described the place where he and La Salle's expedition members had gone with La Salle in He told in an officially recorded and transcribed Mexican Tribunal appearance that it was about 40 leagues some or so miles "the other side of" North of the Red River.

That would point to the possibility of Cameron, Okalhoma area, when one takes into account the northeastward trek of La Salle. I am thus supposing that Dr. Gum recognized and interpreted such data, in the similar way that I have. The French Geographical Name Context.

Additionally, some of the old French geographical place names of this region can be seen as suggested by direct involvements with La Salle Expedition participants and tragic events. Fork of Wickedness River --An apt description of a river at which La Salle and three others were viciously and with much bloody gore murdered.

James Hiens not only accompanied La Salle to the death regions, he also remained --lived-- in that same region for a number of years after La Salle was murdered. I'm certain that Dr. Yet again, there was the young French Expedition member named Talon, who was one of the few who survived the tragedies of , and who had lived with Native Americans in the assassination region from or so, till eventually being captured by the Spanish about Three Primary Documents --page within coverage of "the Talon Interrogations" mentions the banana-like fruit.

The Van Buren Connection: The Journal of Henri Joutel , p. I don't believe that this particular Joutel estimate is to be seen as precisely accurate because he mentioned that he did not keep accurate daily journal entries during that portion of the very difficult times following La Salle's assasination. Additionally, he mentioned taking a route from where La Salle had been murdered that was not direct. Part of the time they traveled mainly north before veering to the northeast. One reason for that was to avoid some of the muddiest and most swampy terrain that is encountered if one were to travel straight northeast from Heavener to Van Buren.

Etienne Liotot and Pierre Duhaut were mentioned as murdered by Jimmy Hiens and a young man known as "Ruter"on May 8, at or near one portion of the Cenis settlements, near a major river that has to be seen as the Arkansas River at Van Buren, Arkansas. Photographs Coprighted by Lee W. The incoming settlers, commencing about , used that ancient French and Indian burial site for developing a "modern" cemetery.

That practice of using ancient French and Indian burial places was often duplicated in this region. In that latter named place, incoming settlers even buried folks on top of that large, flat-topped, ancient, hallowed, Native American Burial Mound Site.

Opposite end of the "Mystery Grave" is below. Near top of this burial stoneare triangular shapes in accord with runic script. The similarity of Runic script for "DeSoto" and "DeLioto" sounded without final "T," in keeping with how non French people hear French "Liotot" are as below, demonstrating that even in written runic format, as well as phonetically, it was easy for early 's incoming migrants to Arkansas to think French Indians were saying that this grave involved someone connected with"D'Soto," instead of involving "D'Lioto.

Runic message of opposite end of Van Buren Crypt is recognizable as runic, but it is so eroded from more than years of weathering that it is problematic for reading. There are, for instance, remnants of triangular shapes typical of Runic "D" and "E,"and "L" and "T" which near modern day folks incorrectly thought may have been remnants of Masonic emblems, which also involve some triangular shapes.

That crypt is completely unique. It was crafted of Native Sandstone, quarried from nearby escarpment. It was placed in an "eyeballed" sunshine-sunset East-West Alignment during Spring of Note, therefore, how the modern graves are aligned more precisely East-Westby modern era geographical surveying equipment.

That grave long predates those post modern platted and laid outgraves. It was also crafted for holding two bodies in wilderness conditions where it was not very easy or convenient to dig graves, so that sandstone crypt --which did previously also have a large rock slab on top of it--would help protect shallow grave of human remains.

The Heavener Memorial Monument, like unto all of the anciently named French geographical place names of that geographical context, is of old Normandy French connections. Photograph Above copyrighted by Lee W. Woodard, and Below I am pasting a pictorial illustration concerning that photo above, along with some related text from my Publication, "7 Noms" at Wicked Fork Where La Salle Died. There are four marker lines. The rightmost marker line is not visible in this photo, but it can be seen in some of my larger photos and in my sketches.

The first of the three top side marker lines Made more obvious in following hand drawn illustrations is slanted above and directly into the left most rune segregating it as a single digit letter, word, or numeral.

The 2nd from left marker line is below and to the right of the 3rd from left rune, and is not involved with the main top side left to right reading French words-messages. The third marker line which is the 2nd of the top side ones is at the top right side of runic " NOMs. The 4th marker line is on the right side of that runic "E" More obvious in other pictures and illustrations. Those two marker lines on either side of that runic "E," along with an obvious, still recognizable, apostrophe to right of that "E" segregates it, as a French word unto iteself.

More on that later. Were we at the Stone right now, and inside that glaring protective shield, I could show you that beside each of those embossed, pencil thick protuberances, there are knife and chisel marks. It possibly did originally have that aspect, in , when La Salle was laid up within that area sick for some six weeks, and seemingly near death. I won't fully demonstrate, dismiss, or discuss that reading for now. They are also illustrated in my hand drawn sketch that I later picture.

The photograph and illustrations above were from good exposures for revealing Marker Lines, above 1st from left rune and below 3rd from left; and for showing Runic "S" perpendicular slash mark to right of 4th from left rune , and for showing marker line extending out of chicken or rooster head at left side of partially visible runic "E,"with that marker line extending up to top of horsehoe shaped, now barely visible, fine-lined, engraved map of an Arkansas River bend.

Lester alerted me about that job because he knew I wanted some pictures when that shield was to be removed. If you are reasonably observant, and if you were at the Heavener Runestone, and if that glaring protective shield did not mess you up too much, you might see, as do I that there is a still fine-and-eroded-lined engraved chicken head backed up against the partially visible runic "E.

They are being represented and named in this portion of the runestone monument, and a marker line comes out of the head of that roosting chicken and goes to the top of a mapped river bend. Below is a closeup of a just barely visible cross Visible inside the Protective PlasticShield, where I was when Ralph Marsh photographed me.

And at the top of that marker line is a slash mark, representing a river bend crossing, that is located to the Noretheast, which is the direction and proper representation of the directions to the Van Buren Grave-Crypt.

Furthermore, there are two faintly visible engraved crosses across that Runestone mapped horseshoe shaped river bend, at a place that properly reflects the placement of the Van Buren Arkansas crypt on Log Town Hill in Van Buren. Within these photos also are several engraved lines of a stream flowing over the engraved roosting chicken. That shorter perpendicular marking is for making plural "NOMs" --And notice the marker line at far right side of this photo.

It extends to a fine-lined, engraved, mapped,horseshoe-shaped-bend, exactly like the one at Arkansas River at Van Buren, AR. Desoto never reached beyond Hot Springs of Arkansas during the early 's.

Previous interpreters completely ignored such fine-lined engraved important peripheraldetails involved with the boldly engraved runes. Past analysts especially erred when they ignored those engraved marker lines, which, as word separators, delineate from left to right Normandy French runes reading,"G as numeral 7 NOMs E' DATes. Look closely at the picture at the left for "ES" engraved in smaller, more eroded characters than the larger runes. This was caused by inability of the Yahoo Web Site to handle my arrow symbols.

Eventually I will resolve that problem. Runic messages often read from right to left. This message has both left to right, and right to left readings, as I delineate in my books. For the Rune Engraver, north is at the left side of this monument, south at the right side, east at the top, and west at the bottom. In that era mapmakers sometimes did as does this.

Woodard, and again in My earliest writings about the monumental directional indicators stand corrected in my most recent publications. My sketch, above, showed the perpendicular rune for "S" next to on the right side of the 4th from left rune, but I did not at first quite realize the full significance of it.

Left side picture below is untouched. Right side is where I have penciled in highlighting of upper left hand side French Connected Marker Line. It comes down into this "X-Looking" Runic "G," showing it as a letter or numeral unto itself. I also highlighted some encircled engraved "7's,"which help to alert observant ones that the numerical value of "G" is of major importance.

In my books and below I picture a small stone bust of La Salle that was reportedly found near that "Wicked Fork" about years ago. Gloria Farley showed me that actual sculpted bust when I was visiting in her home We were neighbors sometime during Not long before her final decline in health, I was told that she took a small stone carved bust to have it copied in Plaster of Paris.

A friend told me that he saw her at the involved copy place, and said he heard her telling those making the copy --Telling them in strictest of terms-- not to tell anyone about it.

At least that is what my friend told me he thought he heard the great lady say. Farley reportedly came back to pick up the Plaster of Paris replica, my friend told me he had an opportunity to make some pictures of the replica.

He did so and he sent several of his picturesto me via E Mail, wanting to hear my response to them. Now, I believe Gloria surely must have known --by that date--that the bust below pictured was of La Salle. Why not just keep the actual article under wraps? She was reportedly trying to keep her knowledge secret. At that time my first book was already in print and Gloria was reportedly disturbed about what I had written. Reporters who were interviewing me were checking with her about what I claimed, and they were then telling me, or else were telling in print, what Gloria thought about what I had written.

We did not communicate face to face. She was always given the opportunity of supplying the last word in those artcicles. You can read the actual newspaper articles covering those dialogues in my book, " 7 Noms. I won't speculate as to what this great ladymay been thinking and why she may have wanted a copy of that bust, and why she reportedly wanted it kept quiet for a while. Thing of it was, she had shown it to me many years earlier, and she had asked me back then, "What do you think this is?

Maybe she forgot that she had shown it to me many years ago? Beneath my picture of the La Salle bust --which shows him as in death-- as preserved in plaster of paris copy is my photo of a wood carving of La Salle, from which I have removed his era popular wig that covered his bald head.

The similarity of the bust and that picture is undeniable. Someone from 's left a bust of La Salle in the region where he was ambushed and shot to death.

The bald head below includes an etched Normandy French Coat of Arms. That evil murder place is down the hill about seven miles below the memorial monument. Those two of La Salle's men who had beenthe March murderers of La Salle, Moranget, Saget, and Nika were shot to death at that Van Buren burial site about a month or so after the other four victims had been murdered at "Wicked Fork.

More than perished. Runes were used partly because they were a fad in the 's, but especially because James Hiens, the monument engraver, wanted to try to veil the information from Spanish soldiers who were actively trying to capture these French, who were considered to be unlawfully trespassing upon Spanish terrain.

These very important historical monuments, graves,and archeologogical relics were notc reated by any Pre Columbian Scandinavian or Irish. Oklahoma beaureaucrats have been even if unintentionally or naively misleading people visiting the Heavener Runestone Park.

They have also some with deliberated intentions tried to ignore my published interpretations of years , not even referencing my related books at that site, even though I am the only person who has published entire books devoted to the monument.

Maybe this Web Site will help them to reconsider what they should be doing at that very historic site. Below is my picture of the grave of Petit Jean de Marne or de Marle historical records have variance as to that name, which was, of itself,likely an alias, as even the legends suggest.

That rocky-palisade-surrounded grave from Saint Jean John Baptist Day, June 24, , is described in actual French historical eyewitness accounts, including one written by one of two presiding priests at the funeral Anastasius Douay.

I tell that fantsatic story in my book, Petit Jean's Mountain: The Origin of the Legend. That actual La Salle Expedition historical source for the old Arkansas oral legends about Petit Jean was unknown in modern era till I discovered and announced it.

I summarized the Petit Jean Saga in this manner at http: After [reportedly] being forced to take part in bloody brawls that took 7 lives, fled down ARK River with 6 others. He Or she, as in legend was lovingly prepared for burial by Native Americans. Eyewitness French friends recorded true story. Additonally, via helpfulness of a friend, and former Petit Jean Mountain resident,Don Higgins, I record in that updated book an Western Immigrant newspaper artcile.

It reports in a very beautiful manner the oldest yet discovered glamorized legend of Petit Jean. That book, Petit Jean's Mountain: The Origin of the Legend makes for a fantastic story that could readily be made into a film. Above my picture of "Petit Jean's" Grave. Below , a beautiful picture looking off Petit Jean Mountain toward nearby Arkansas River from near that grave site. The likely place where "Petit Jean's" body was retrieved from drowning is marked with an arrow head.

The burial site, as described both by ancient legends andby Father Anastasius Douay --One of the presiding priests at the burial-- was surrounded by rocky palisades in keeping with the legendary grave site pictured above. That grave site is just to the lower right side of what is shown in this photograph. For more detailed information, consult my books. A Treasury of American Heritage: A selection from the first five years of the Magazine of History.

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Louisiana State University Press, Notice that the peripheral engravings But not the short stroke perpendicular runic "S" are of necessity much more finely lined and less indelibly carved and are much more eroded during past years than are the larger, boldly engraved runes. An article concerning Lee W.

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A History of French Louisiana , 3 vols. He wanted his own name recognizable by appropriately educated folks, but he also marked out with French Connected Marker Lines, the Monumental Message about "7 NOMs" murdered and that he wanted memorialized.

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