Are Online Dating Services a Waste of Money?
The experiences shared here don't really mesh with mine. People often form erroneous impressions from online communications. Take out your wallet, put on a decent outfit and go have some fun. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. It's a lot less pressure and you already have something to talk about given you share a common interest. Eastwick of the University of California.
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My SO now, whom I met online, didn't ask to meet me until a month after. Unattractive guys don't get replies from the girls they message. From there, I just pour on the charm. We send all the messages, they do all the deciding. Get a haircut, brush your teeth, put on some clean well fitting clothes and take the woman to a comfortable place. But when I got new, better ones, I didnt even have do anything, because girl were messaging me.
Or just say 'Hi'. I can get those being ignored. But I've always sent actual messages, respectful ones. And I get about one back for every dozen I send. Oh I've gotten some good dates and met some good people from online dating but in general it's too demeaning to guys and I'm not doing it again.
A mistake a lot of people seem to make with online dating is thinking that it's different from traditional dating. It's not; you still have to be attractive, and present yourself in the best possible light. One things I don't understand is, if women are so successful with online dating, doesn't it mean that the same number of men are successful too?
I mean, the guys who get to date those women. Unless men outnumber women by extreme numbers on dating sites I use OKCupid, plenty of fish and Tinder. I've used more regional dating sites in the past but no longer. I've never had a match on Tinder that wasn't a bot. On the other sites I've sent hundreds of messages over 5 years and received less than 10 responses total. Never gotten a date from it.
And for the record I'm not sending "hey" messages or copy pasting anything. I send individualized messages if I like the person's profile. I'm a 24 year old white male of average height and I'm in great shape been lifting for about 6 years although I'm very ugly in the face.
I work a blue collar job and am going to school part time for my bachelor's degree. If you're like me, don't look at your competition because it's depressing as fuck.
There's 2x the amount of guys as there are girls anywhere you go with online dating, if not worse, and many of them are super good looking guys who have really good jobs and advanced degrees and they speak 3 languages and they do all these interesting things. Hi, I'm a female and i'm on OkCupid. Every website will have a different clientele and you might need to find the right website for you.
Your profile might be too generic or not share enough personal information or maybe too much! Your pictures might not be flattering or might be the same picture over and over. Something i've noticed is many men will post 4 or 5 pictures but their face looks exactly the same in each one.
Remember, your profile is like a resume. List your strengths and don't talk about your ex. Also, there's some important messaging etiquette some people just don't know.
Everyone is different, but if someone messages me with 1 or 2 words, or only says something about my looks, I will delete them. If they ask a question about something simple that I already said in my profile, I will delete them like "where are you from" when it says "i moved here from XXX" in the first paragraph.
Do consider that women tend to get a lot of messages even the fatties like me and that again, like a resume, you need to make yourself stand out some how. Real life could totally work-- for some of us it doesn't due to scheduling issues, or that we don't drink, or whatever. If you think you would be more successful in real life, give it a go, it can't hurt!
Or do both at once, it doesn't hurt to keep your profile up. So for some of us it is a waste of time. The only way I've ever stood out is by working hard and having a good memory. Both arr things that when applied to dating seem to be much more likely to get me labeled creepy than a date.
Actually, those two things I find very attractive because I am the same way. If they are stated in the profile, there's a dam good chance you'd get a message back from me. Those are two things that will serve you well your entire life. But that's just me. Another girl might want a ditzy boy with no work ethic. It's great if you're an athletic, 6'0 tall, white guy in your late 20's to early 30's with a white collar job. I think guys in their late 30's and early 40's do quite a bit better than younger guys.
I got lots of messages when on was their a few years ago as a 40 year old. Met my wife the old fashioned way before I had a chance to respond to any of them.
I'm also average looking at best and a little over weight. It helped me gain a fair breadth of experience with different types of women in a fairly short time, but it didn't really give me much deep relationships. It did give me the confidence to initiate in real life situations, so that led to great "meet in person randomly" dates after I went offline. It took a lot of patience and a lot of practice, though.
No reason you can't split your focus, though. I'm in a new city this weekend, and used an online dating app to find a date tonight. So, well see how it goes I guess. It's not a waste of time if you don't waste too much time on it.
You can make it a waste of your time if you spend all day thinking about it and stressing about it and F5ing the website. If you make a profile, look at a few profiles, and message a few people who catch your eye, it's not a waste of time. You haven't invested too much, and you stand to gain.
Who knows, maybe someone cool will even initiate something with you. I met my wife on Oasis. So I cannot say it's completely crap, although it did take a year or so.
In the mean time I hooked up with 3 or 4 other women and chatted with maybe ten times that. It is a numbers game, I found the biggest restriction for me was living in rural Australia. If I lived somewhere more densely populated I'm sure it would have been easier.
Ive had good success with it. Sign up on whatever is popular in your area. Badoo or tinder here. As long as you have some good pictures of yourself and have some chatting skills it should work pretty well! But you should keep flirting irl during this so you don't let the online thing get too much of your attention. Most of it will be a waste of time because really, you're a man and therefore useless in online dating.
That's why you don't put in effort. Look at a profile, send the first thing that comes to mind as a message and leave it at that. Most messages won't get responses anyway, so don't waste time by overthinking them. Depends on what you mean bu waste of time. It can be very time-wasting, because you most guys will need to put in a lot of time just to have it run into dead ends. But if you're on a highly populated site then chances are that eventually you'll find someone.
And then, was it really a waste of time? I've had reasonable luck with it and my current gf I found on okcupid. I'm also super busy and it's an easy way to "meet" a lot of people with the limited amount of time that I've got.
Yes, I still do other things to meet people, but it seems like online was the best "bang for the buck" so to speak. It really depends on what your expectations are. I have a good friend of mine that met his now girlfriend through OkCupid. For me personally, not my cup of tea, i've tried it briefly and it is pretty depressing. It feels pretty shallow and i like meeting someone organically in a more social context.
It also feels really forced messaging strangers in hopes of getting together and dating. I think so, yes. The number of guys totally outnumbers girls for one. And anyone who isn't fairly attractive doesn't stand to gain much. Unattractive girls don't get messaged. Unattractive guys don't get replies from the girls they message. So a small portion of attractive girls wind up with tons of messages they have to weed through.
You can be original and funny but in the end, you're just another message they have sitting in their inbox. On top of this, the women on dating sites are constantly being bombarded with compliments to the point where they may actually start to believe they deserve a 9 or 10 when they themselves are pushing a 4 or 5.
On top of all of this you have the women on dating sites who have no intention of ever dating anyone from the site and are only there for the daily emails containing a confidence boost.
I spent about two years doing the online dating thing. I got lots of dates I joked that for about two months, I was running the "Afflo buys a lady dinner dinner" club but none really panned out. A couple of short relationships, but the biggest issue I found was people trying to misrepresent themselves. I was realistic about who I was, and it really pissed me off when "M. If I guessed my ratio, I'd get maybe 1 message back for every 5 I sent.
Out of those, probably half would turn into at least one date. It seemed that actually reading their profiles and writing with a witty quip gave me my best results. It's much easier to meet in person where you can be yourself, let your charm shine through, prove that you're not an awkward creep, and instantly read her signals, expressions, etc.
I also found that meeting someone through friends means that they're already 'vetted' to some extent. There's no buddy to pull you aside and say, "Dude, that one's missing a few puzzle pieces" on OKC. I highly recommend meetup. I met my wife through friends I made on Meetup. But you'll get a lot of nos from the vocal of minority of guys who've gotten dates out of online dating.
Irl looks aren't generally the deciding factor when women are looking for a potential romantic partner, it's his social status and masculine personality traits that are. Online the only thing she can objectively base whether or not you're attractive on, are your looks, full stop because she can't reasonably discern your personality and to a point, your social status, by a few paragraphs on your profile and a couple messages back and forth.
Now, couple all of that with the fact that every woman on an online dating site is flooded with messages a day reading "hey bby wan sum fuk", and you'll see why they have to filter dudes out based on looks.
I don't blame them. Think about it, if the roles were reversed and every dude was getting messages a day, he'd HAVE to find a way to screen some of them out, or he'd be reading profile blurbs and checking pics endlessly. So yea, your best bet is to do shit the old fashioned way. You have an actual chance at finding someone without being drowned out by the noise that way. I had a terrible time with Okcupid, but with Tinder I clean house. Maybe change up which service you use: In the end remember it's a numbers game online, message 20 people get one reply.
It's easy to get emotionally invested in responses, but toughen up your skin and push forward. The experiences shared here don't really mesh with mine. I'm about to crash at a girls place I met on the site whilst travelling next month. I've had several ONS's, short lived flings, multiple dates with some girls that didn't work out, and one short lived relationship from it.
I've had considerably more back-and-forth message exchanges in the past. Have the results been amazing? I hadn't dated at all by age 23 when I first met a girl from the site, and went through a hectic spate of dating after my first successful date, which flowed over into my confidence outside of online dating leading to me hooking up with 2 friends of friends.
My advice is take the time to work on yourself, make your profile specific to you and not generic, and really try to be witty and avoid bullshit with your messages. I'm not that attractive and I've met and nailed several women via net dating. Now this isn't necessarily what you want.
In a year I've met 8 different women, and got the numbers of many more. I'd rate all of them a 6 or below, except for one. I wasted way too much time browsing online dating sites, and going on dates with women below my standard. I decided to quit masturbating, meditate, and learn some inner game techniques. At 29 years age I never approached random women, but now I am, and its a lot of fun.
I feel like I will have an incredible amount of success as I continue to approach more and more. I've come to the conclusion that girls in the US don't get approached often at all. Walking up to a girl and telling them you think they're cute is all it takes, and it brightens their day.
If you are just looking to get laid, please call an escort service. If you want a nice, attractive woman to go out with you on a date, then call her up and invite her to go someplace nice. She will probably say yes if you are reasonably attractive and well groomed with good manners. And you don't try to rip her clothes off on the first date, or ask for a specific time frame in which you can rip her clothes off.
Most of the guys are so crass or too cheap to date a nice woman. Most of the women are pretty nice and appreciate being treated like a lady. How can any man expect a woman who is a complete stranger to have sex with him right away unless she is a professional escort? Get a haircut, brush your teeth, put on some clean well fitting clothes and take the woman to a comfortable place. The woman is probably very busy and has a lot of responsibilities.
She would probably love to go out with a nice man for dinner instead of being with the girls or sitting in front of her TV every night. You don't have to spend a fortune of money. Get some game guys!!! She's not gonna come to your place for a few drinks if she has never even met you! Would you recommend this to your sister? Most women would love to be taken out by a nice guy.
Take out your wallet, put on a decent outfit and go have some fun. Maybe you'll like her a lot, maybe not. If you don't take a chance you'll never know. And like I said, if you just want to get laid, call an escort. I think very few normal women will go home and have sex with a stranger they just met on the Internet. But I's still tell guys to give it a go. Because there is always a chance of meeting someone.
The problem is wholly replacing real life interaction with online dating. Doesnt matter what you look like, if you start out with "hey, beautiful", I'm going to delete it. I don't want to see that. It makes me feel as if you're desperate for some reason and that's a turn off. Also, please don't request to meet up so soon. I've had many guys request to meet 10 min. Makes me feel like a you want sex B desperate. My SO now, whom I met online, didn't ask to meet me until a month after. We've been together for a year and a half and I know I will marry him.
My mind is much more attractive than my body so it's been great for me but that's just one man. Okay, a few things. First of all, you gotta fix your attitude. Tons of guys in this thread are going in already thinking it's a waste of time, they'll never get a response, it's not worth putting in the effort, etc.
That will get you nowhere. You have to go into online dating thinking this is a game with rules, and I'm going to learn them and adapt to them. Yes there are tons of guys on these sites, so how will you stand out? Think about yourself -- do you date anything with tits and two legs, or do you have a 'type'? You're on reddit so it's likely that you're a little on the nerdier side with your hobbies and interests, you probably value intellectualism and you're DTF with good spelling and grammar.
So don't make yourself sound generic and plain -- give the reader a very solid idea of what kind of person you are with your profile. I'm a sarcastic, irreverent smartass so I make that evident in my profile and it gets girls interested because they are like that too. Remember that the point of all this is finding someone you can get along with so making it clear what kind of guy you are is a good strategy.
Next, the "be attractive don't be unattractive" thing. People think that's referring to looks. I work in the wedding business and I see cute girls in relationships with horrid goblins of men all the time.
And if you're not too great looking, your chances only get better with age. Women especially in their later 20s and beyond give way less of a fuck what you look like and way more about your character as a person. Pleasant to be around? Do you have your shit together? You see "be attractive. Set sex and looks aside and think about the qualities of a person you would be attracted to.
They're probably intelligent, confident in who they are, nice and warm and friendly and put you at ease when you speak with them.
They make you feel welcomed and show genuine interest in your ideas and feelings while still having interesting ones of their own. They don't bum you out with negativity but empower you with optimism and friendly encouragement.
This is the person you should strive to be. Not just for dating but for your entire life. Make people breathe a sigh of relief when you show up because they know they have a friend who will make them feel better than before you showed up.
That is what being attractive means. That may seem like a redundancy but it isn't. Just like there are qualities that will draw people towards you, there are others that will push people away. Things like your demeanor. If someone saw you across the room would you seem approachable? Or do you seem unhappy, annoyed, morose or otherwise unwelcoming?
What are your feelings inside? Are you at peace with the world? Or do you hold a lot of anger and resentment towards women for not dating you, men more successful than you, good looking people, etc? That shit is poison and it will seep out of your pores and push people away from you.
And there's nothing to be angry about. You smile and move on and you don't hold grudges against her or women in general. The number one thing I see with "forever alone" guys is deep-seeded resentment towards women, and there's nothing more unattractive than that.
To summarize, work on yourself. Figure out who YOU are, be confident in it and work on being the kind of person that people love to be around. That does NOT mean the funniest guy in the room, or the most outgoing or gregarious. That means the real important stuff - kindness, loyalty, compassion, courage, integrity, positivity and happiness.
Don't worry about looks so much. Wear clothes that fit you and don't make you look like a weirdo, get a haircut every three or four weeks and you're golden. Work on your own success and people will think "Wow.
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Do not post pictures looking for affirmation of your appearance. Just like there are qualities that will draw people towards you, there are others that will push people away.
The only way I've ever stood out is by working hard and having a good memory.
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