Matchmaker, Matchmaker: The Best and Worst of Jewish Dating Sites
Any Slavic or Christian who actually thinks Hitler was good is not right in the head no offense Hitler worshipers. Other versions throw in some other Rothschild like Father Nathan, but he died in in Frankfurt I believe, which is Germany, not Austria, a year before Alois was born in Austria. It may also be helpful in small Jewish communities where meeting prospective marriage partners is limited, and this gives them access to a broader spectrum of potential candidates. Shane, the silly things you say show that you are either very young or…, well I better save myself the other part. Anonymous Chatsworth, CA via chabadchatsworth. There is no cure no antiodote no hope.
Really good text I loved that part of the Sage's counselling. You would be beheaded, be downtrodden, etc. He was controlled opposition. There were Rothschild palaces all over Vienna. It also adopted a very anti-Zionist attitude. Pre-arranged weddings Speaking of arranged marriages, the Torah dwells on the marriages of the 5 daughters of Zelohaphad in Numbers 36 as if they occurred with a "waving of a wand".
Also, the decision as to whether or not the mate is good can be made with the emotional boundary of the shadchan who, if so desired by the couple, can call and talk to either side in the beginning stages of the dating to iron out issues that can crop up during the dating process. Usually as the couple see more of each other the shadchan backs away and lets the couple manage it themselves. It's expected that the couple keep the shadchan up-to-date on how the shidduch is going at regular intervals.
If the shidduch works out then the couple inform the shadchan of its success. In recent years, a number of shidduchim sites have appeared on the Internet. The prospective partners either date each other or in stricter communities they go to a "bashow"  or sit in.
A typical bashow scene is that the young man with his parents goes to see the young woman in her house to see if the prospective couple are compatible. Both sets of parents talk to each other, and then when the setting is more relaxed, they go into another room, leaving the man and woman in the living room to speak among themselves. Some use this opportunity to actually ask each other pertinent questions, while some just want to see if they like each other, relying more on the information they got from the shadchen or from other people.
The number of bashow s prior to announcing an engagement varies, as some have many bashow s while others have as few as one, which is typical among the children of Hasidic Rebbes. Bashert or Beshert , Yiddish: It can also be used to express the seeming fate or destiny of an auspicious or important event, friendship, or happening. In modern usage, Jewish singles will say that they are looking for their bashert , meaning they are looking for that person who will complement them perfectly, and whom they will complement perfectly.
Since it is considered to have been foreordained by God whom one will marry, one's spouse is considered to be one's bashert by definition, independent of whether the couple's marital life works out well or not. The first recorded shidduch in the Torah was the match that Eliezer , the servant of the Jewish patriarch Abraham , made for his master's son Isaac Genesis Ch. Abraham gave him specific instructions to choose a woman from Abraham's own tribe.
Eliezer traveled to his master's homeland to fulfill Abraham's wishes, arriving at a well. After a short prayer to God for guidance, describing how a virtuous woman might act toward a traveling stranger at the well, Rebekah appeared on the scene and did everything described in Eliezer's prayer.
Eliezer then went with Rebekah to her family and appealed to them for permission to take Rebekah back with him to be Isaac's wife. Once this permission was granted, Rebekah joined Eliezer on the road home to Isaac. Even so, Isaac gained his own impression of her before agreeing to marry her Rashi, commentary to Genesis However, when Eliezer proposes to take Rebekah back to Isaac in Canaan , he is told by Rebekah's family: This is taken as an instruction for Jewish parents to weigh their child's opinion in the balance during an arranged marriage.
Regardless of whether proper procedure is followed, this is not the end of the decision - it is believed by Jews that the final say belongs to God, who may have different plans compare with the match of Jacob and Leah. The Talmud Bavli Kiddushin 12a, first version states that academy head Rav would give corporal punishment to a man who would marry without shidduchin , that is,  without prearrangement by the couple.
The text gives three versions of Rav's practice; the other two versions disagree. Some authorities rule according to the first version,   while others rule according to the other two versions. In Kiddushin 41a states that a man should not marry a woman he has not seen, lest he come to violate Love your neighbour as yourself. The etymology of the words "shidduch" and "shadchan" is uncertain. Targum to Judges 5: Although Torah law allows for a bat-kohen to marry a challal , convert, or freed slave Hebrew eved meshukhrar , the Midrash and Talmud cite Rabbi Yochanan 's view that a daughter of the kohen is best off marrying a kohen.
Rabbi Yochanan maintains that in the event a bat-kohen marries a non-Kohen, undesired results for the groom are likely to surface, such as poverty or the demise of the groom. An exception to this taboo is if the groom is a Talmid Chacham. I reccomend that people tell the truth and say just exactly what religion. For, as we all know, what are considered 'idolatrous' religions are frowned upon to say the least.
And there maybe lays the answer why you don't mention exactly what religion you belong. Martin Rich In Parsha Bamidbar there is a census of the Jewish men who are able to serve in the army. There were over 32 thousand in the tribe of Menashah. Even allowing for the fact that many of these men were already married, or otherwise unsuitable, Zelohaphad's daughters had choices.
Arranged marriages What is an arranged marriage? To me it is one where a third party introduces a man and a woman who they feel might be very compatible.
I met my husband via a"blind date" arranged by my best friend. That was an arranged marriage if you think about it. I have many cousins - 22 of them - all religious - who were introduced to their mates via shidduch.
There is not one divorce among them, which is a lot fewer than the so called love matches you see in the movies. And I clearly remember the radiant faces of the brides as they walked down the aisle, to marry someone they knew would life a life with the same goals, ethics and morality than they have - not to mention intellectual compatibility. Pre-arranged weddings Speaking of arranged marriages, the Torah dwells on the marriages of the 5 daughters of Zelohaphad in Numbers 36 as if they occurred with a "waving of a wand".
Given that they were restricted in their choices to members of their tribe Manashieh it reeks of pre-arrangement and dismisses the very idea of love or compatibility. However, the Torah is noted for its brevity. I suppose that's why we need rabbis to "fill in the blanks", Midrashically. Modern thinkers might find the Jewish dating practice of dating archaic.
Eating in a public place, not touching one another, and talking first about very practical things like Religious customs and family size etc. Later only reporting back to parents if they liked their potential mate, pursuing parental approval.
Many would say it wasn't fair or it was old fashioned. However if we gauge using a more practical means, like how successful is the marriage it seems that the Jewish traditional approach is the best way. How it works Your parents, people who know you, know what kind of person is right for you. And they arrange a meeting.
In many cases, they are right and the 'spark' is there. In a few no, and it's back to the drawing board. Put it like this, you're on a college campus with thousands of people, and the majority are not your type.
Imagine shrinking that to a small portion of your type and then being able to select from that 'batch'. That's how it goes. To Lisa You say you did read it. So you should see that choosing love is totally included in what the rabbi said about Jewish matchmaking practice. All the matchmaker does is find potential matches for you. Did you see the other post? One daughter had the matchmaker bring her ten different guys and she didn't love any of them.
But finally they brought her one that she loved. She married that one. You choose the one you love. And if he also loves you, then you get married.
Meanwhile you don't wind up getting your heart broken by men who aren't interested in marriage to start with. The lack of matchmakers means that a lot of guys live with a woman for years, enjoying the benefits of marriage without any commitment. Just today I met a woman with two children by such a man. I suppose she loved him. Maybe he loved her. After 6 years she realized he wasn't interested in marrying her. She has a new one Nowadays The rabbi who teaches our class says that when he was single, the matchmaker found him many possible mates.
He would meet with each one in a public place and then the matchmaker would find out whether he liked her. If he did, they would have more meetings. Finally he met someone that he said he wanted to marry, and now they've been married for many years and one of their kids is a teenager. He tells us they are partners. Clearly he is very happy and she is devoted to him.
The point is, the matchmaker brings you more than one possible partner. But you only get married to someone you like who also likes you. Someone you want and find attractive who also feels that way about you. If all the opponents of arranged marriages would take the trouble to read what was written, it would be clear that Jews do not coerce when using a match maker.
Everybody gets a say; it's just that someone is trying to weed out the clearly incompatible. It's impossible to parse out what happens in any one family because surely families do exert enormous pressure on their sons and daughters to comply with "their" wishes.
Certainly in the Orthodox Jewish community it's got to be an Orthodox man, or, the family will be incredibly upset. So that's a form of more than, perhaps, tradition. Other groups do still have arranged marriages. These still take place, for example, in some families in India. But I believe, around the world, there is a growing consciousness of this notion of choice, of love, of soul mate, as in finding one's own way.
But if people choose to go to matchmakers, and there are many right here, as in internet dating, Lunch Dates etc.
We just do our best, and that's to hopefully find the right person for each other. Have you actually read the article. This is not arranged as in no one gets a vote. This is arranged as in, here is someone you might like to meet. They share the same interests as you, and like you , are looking for a spouse, not a brief fling. The couple takes it from there, and the couple gets to decide.
With arranged settings, I feel safe and it is better than any other way I used to date randomly. Now I think it is so scary. I have met a wonderful shidduch and I believe it is better than any other way.
A matchmaker does not "arrange" a marriage. He or she simply makes a suggestion. If not, they don't meet.
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I am sure we can agree that everything is better then a Jewish cleptocracy called democracy in our days but I would prefer a hereditary monarchy. Germans came to America in the s who were named Hitler. Who carried them out and where were they carried out.
Few people knew at that time that the local conflict between Germany and Poland was destined to develop into a full-blown World War 2.
By a community had come into being and ofthodox the demand for special military dating sites for free was rescinded; at that time an official best orthodox jewish dating sites of the community took place. Stop thieves by offering them bread! But the Jew money made sure we got their Masons and shills. Since a matchmaker is making an introduction to someone you've never met, you have to make the effort of finding out more information about the person in question. Email me when new comments bsst posted.
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