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Archived from the original on Personally, an older man who thinks he needs a much younger woman, has some serious issues. Non-free As of [update]. If you haven't been on a date in 27 years, don't be too disappointed if you can't get one right away. He is highly educated and is very picky about intelligence of women he dates, and he said he was amazed by me, because he felt it was so easy to talk to me right away, i'm smart and attractive. So we talked and decided to make it serious and delete our profiles in front of each other. You might also like.

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I read the response of the recently divorced 62 year old man in Vancouver. And you need to understand that us women get more than 50 messages a day, we can respond and be genuinely interested in each and every one of you, we would lose track of our conversations. Sorry you experience this. The bottom line is men and there are women as well are not respectful of one another anymore. After you enter your basic details, the site loads a pop-up window asking for email — ie:

My biggest complaint about online dating is the deplorable lack of manners and grammar. I don't believe I have ever received a message containing even one punctuation mark in the two years I've been a member on POF, and the messages can be outright lewd! I've also been the target of a determined fellow more than once, so it really comforted me to read this author experienced the same.

I do not engage with users who are disrespectful, have clearly not read my profile, or lack even a basic understanding of spelling and grammar, and I typically delete these unwanted messages. If you're reading this, guys, please take the author's advice and actually read our profiles before you randomly solicit us for sex, and for heaven's sake use complete sentences!

I look for men who DONT want children I have them already, and finding someone who is happy to date a single mum Even if getting attention IS easy, does it mean the man is necessarily right for me? I read the profiles carefully. And if they read mine carefully, they might discover that I am really not right for them. I get attention from men all the time.

And I speak to men all the time. Finding a special person is not easy for a man or a woman. Speaking from personal experience, a man who has poor hygiene and no employment or income is not the man for me. He doesn't have to be rich. I will not date a man who asks me to borrow money or cannot pay for a cup of coffee. If he cannot bother to take care of his teeth, shave or put on a clean shirt, what makes him think I would want to get physically close to him?

This is pretty basic stuff. The truth is, it is not easy for a man or a a woman to find a good partner. Do you know what you are looking for? If it is just "attention", that is easy to find. If is is a long lasting relationship with a suitable partner, that is not so easy for a man or a woman to find. Get over the idea that you do not get enough "attention".

Personally, I am very allergic to animals. I live in a city and would not date a man with animals. It makes me uncomfortable as I physically cannot tolerate them. I would never ask the man to give up his pet, so when I see a man is an animal lover, I don't respond.

It is not that I do not like animals, I just cannot breathe around them. I had one boyfriend with a dog who kept the animal very clean, his home was spotless he had a professional housekeeper and dog groomer. He also did not allow the dog to lie on the furniture or the bed and was very sensitive to the fact that some people are allergic to animals. I was able to date that man.

It is really the exception, however. Other men I know with pets like to lounge with them, sleep with them, have them hang out everywhere. That's absolutely great, but it does not match up with me. So I do not reply. Think about all the reasons a woman might not reply. Do you live miles away?

Are you spending all your time and money on your children from your previous marriage? Nothing wrong with being a responsible parent, but where does that leave the single woman with no kids you want to date? If she is also divorced with school aged kids, maybe it's a possible match.

Women do not "have it easy". And neither do the men. As a man who has NEVER had a date from the 3 main sites I have used, I can categorically say that; even if you read a profile, send a nice message and be pretty much, charming Us "men" get ignored or blocked. I have been blocked many times for just being interested about a lady's profile. I don't say anything sexual and I am always polite. They want someone to chat to and, when they get bored, there's always more men to choose from.

Women will get around messages every few days. They may be crappy messages but it's still a message. All I see woman say on profiles is how men pester them with sexual comments and, if they are not sexual, all they say is; "hi". As a man who has NEVER had a date from the 3 main sites I have used, I can catagorically say that; even if you read a profile, send a nice message and be pretty much, charming I am a woman and just gave up on POF and Eharmony because I did not receive 1 message in the whole 6 months I paid to be on both sites.

Not lewd, poorly written or otherwise. So I don't' see how it is harder for a man who can message anyone he likes, than it is to sit and wait and get nothing. Even "unattractive" men get more attention than that.

But if you are an average or worse looking female, you might as well not even sign up. You would be lucky to get get a reply. And as far as average women, let me tell you I'm not one to judge but I know women who by most standards would be considered below average. She has showed me. And secondly it's hard not to get a bit of any ego or get pick when you feel you have the power of choice. Lastly unattractive men do not get a response period.

They either get laughed at, get turned into a joke, or have woman block them or threaten them simply for showing interest even if they did so in a completely normal, acceptable way. I'm not saying whether you had it hard or not. But if you think any mean who isn't on the higher side of average is realistically getting any attention you have alot to learn about the male side of this.

Also why can't you intimate a conversation? I'm female and I've been on Match on and off 3 times. First when I was 50 and looked Then 55 and looked 50, etc. I look great and younger. I had pretty much nothing but weirdos asking for pics naked before we met really? Out of all this, I had a few coffees and drinks I won't go to dinner with someone that I haven't met, as I don't want to waste their money or mine if we don't click a bit, so it's coffee or drinks at first out of many responses, I had no one go out with me that I responded to, I had 2 crazy men I ended up leaving the date after they got weird, and only 1 man who I am still friends with 5 years later.

We never became romantic as there was no spark, but we hit it off as friends, something I wasn't looking for, really, but, I figured, oh, well, a single woman can always use a guy friend, and we help each other out with chores.

He helps me with yard work and woodworking, I help him with laundry and ironing. Not often, but from time to time we hang out. I don't think its possible for someone in my age group to suceed on line. To women who think that men that get no responses on dating sites are genetic losers or something, you couldnt be more wrong.

I get a lot of attention from women outside, im 6 foot 2 and confident and women respond a lot to it. I also look better in real life than on a selfie, id need a professional photographer almost to make me look how I look at myself in the mirror thats what others see anyway.

I've seen similar guys as me, popular guys that try tinder and get zilch. Is it our fault for not wanting to work more on our profiles and hire professional photographers? Anyway I find anyone who spends more than 2 hours on an internet profile is wasting their time. I'll just stick to real life, where women show a lot more judgement. I am 6 foot and confident and well dressed.

I have a job and I am reasonably good looking. These 2 gentleman are correct. There is no point to it anymore. It's a losing game and it's only getting worse. We aren't trying to bat out of our league either, it just is what it is. Online dating is dying and women killed it. This is my situation. My online profile gets less attention than my real life presence I'm a bit ticked.

I currently have 3 women I work with that I'm not really interested in at all totally keep giving me the "I want you look". I don't like going to bars because I'm not much of a public social drinker, and I abhor 1 night stands with people I don't know very well.

I'm not very tall 5'11" and apparently good looking enough to always attract attention from someone at least once a month. I've had way more success than most men on dating sites.

Most of the women I've met just want casual sex, typically one night stands. My last two girlfriends from POF were abusive and one pretended to be pregnant. Most women I've chatted to without meeting just wanted an ego boost or to talk to "friends" on a dating site!

Any woman is going to get a ton more genuine guys than a man will get genuine women. It's a numbers game and the numbers will always favour the girls. Let's hear about how terrible it is for women. Ok lil boys and girls, heres what they dont tell you and why you do or dont get replies based on your gender.

In the age groups.. First the women on these sites. Now guys for the most part my brethren are the same except where as the women imply theyre single, you retards take off your wedding rings and replace them with credit cards, because all your looking for is a piece if strange and an ego boost cause you knocked up your ol'ladies and no one told you after she pops out a few lil ones her tits are gonna sag and her ass is gonna get wider than broad st, so you think your entitled to go out and chase young strange until you get caught, then you whine like the bitches you are when you do , and dont wanna give up the old and busted til you have the new hotness commited , basically just like all the women do Dating sites are a waste.

I've spent two years and read a lot of columns like this and put the advice into practice. I've had 6 dates, none of which panned out. I'm a decent guy; solid career, clean background my job requires security clearance , I'm NOT looking for a hookup, I always try to start conversations with their interests, and I even got female friends to vet my profile.

Yet while I make it clear I'm looking for a serious relationship, I get hit with "oh, I am just looking for a friend, not dating". I get to the point of meeting in person Had several who suddenly realize they are not ready to date again I'm 47, most singles my age are divorced.

What I've found is the old stereotype is often true; if a guy isn't really hot or really wealthy, there's no interest. One who I went on a date with actually said I was too nice. One asked me to text a picture I have several in my profile, both headshot and full head-to-toe photos , then literally said "oh I did the "fake profile" test, left most details the same.

Changed my name put up photos of a relatively unknown in the U. The rest of the details job, interests, kids, etc. I not only was flooded with messages, several were the SAME women who had not given the "real me" even a reply.

Otherwise, you're going to spend a lot of time staring at your keyboard. Robert, you left one factor out. What would you rate your physical attractiveness on a scale from ? I'd also ask what was the attractiveness of the women you were messaging?

If you feel you're a 6, you should be messaging 4s or less. I'm a man, and I just started using a dating site to see if I could meet someone. It was kind of an accident that I found myself on OKcupid, but I was recently single after many years and figured wth. Initially I had good success meeting women, and had a few dates.

Still they were positive experiences and friendly ladies though one seemed offended My profile was kind of sparse and direct. I read up some about online dating and made my profile more detailed and joined PoF too.

I think I've written decent opening messages, and a few I thought would for sure be interested to talk and then go out as they had indicated a like or some such. I figured most would be courteous enough to at least respond, even if it's a thanks but no thanks.

I always respond when I'm not interested and say why. To me this is just common courtesy. I know many people have different etiquette online then in person and I think that's a bunch of shit. Anyways I can see why some men would get frustrated, and if they express that to you rudely you should be grateful because he just did you a favor showing you that you don't want to date him anyway. Ladies you have nothing to complain about if in your opinion you're receiving too much attention, even if only a few are quality that's reality anywhere.

It kind of equates to complaining about making too much money. You can't take things personal online and let yourself become jaded and angry. If some jerk sends you dick pics or whatever as his opening line laugh it off and hit your delete button. Honestly it's not like you haven't seen one before, and it's not gonna jump off the screen and bite you lol. Alright I think its time for me to get back to the real world, that fence in my front yard isn't going to paint itself oh how I wish.

Hi David - Welcome to reality. You have to paint your fence. Most women on this site paint their own fences too.

Just like you, I do not have eternity to message complete strangers on line. For your information, dating a man that lives in another city is impossible for me. Simply logistically impossible unless he has loads of dollars.

Because I cannot afford to take time and money from work to run after some man 50 miles away. Guys - are you reading the profiles and does the woman seem to have anything in common with you? Does she live nearby? Is she allergic to animals? I find the more details I put in my profile, the fewer messages I receive. That's fine by me because I do not want to have to reply to every guy who lives in a geographical location I have no way to get to.

You would be amazed at the number of men who message me who are not accessible. They live to far away. How can I get to know them if I need to travel over an hour to meet them for a cup of coffee? Really guys - check it out before you think - hey, no one sent me a message.

There are loads of guys out there - handsome with good jobs that live near me - who love their dog. Because I am allergic to dogs and I would not expect the person to give up their pet for me. Other guys, handsome, nice property, etc. How will I date him? Spend a whole day on a road trip to have a cup of coffee with him? It is sort of flattering to receive a message.

But it leaves me with a sinking feeling too - this guy is NOT anywhere near me. He has no means to make it easy for us to get together. I have to go paint my fence. I met someone on OkCupid. I don't think it had anything to do with the website OkCupid just know that there are bad people out there and always go with your gut feeling he is currently in jail serving time for grand theft and fraud.

I think all these dating sites should have some type of background check or a place for you can check people out. I did Google this person and nothing came up. If it's too good to be true it is. I'm a male and must say, you have a damn good point about bgc's. Then again, if I may add, if only dating sites would show all the different profiles users have replied to in the past to get an idea what they're REALLY looking for, yuh know?

Then calls to ask where we're meeting. I'm going back to the traditional way of meeting, so you can assess some of the chemistry right off. There's a bit less of the weirdness of online and encountering guys that you know you're not compatible with. Some guys judge based on women not being interested or giving them a chance. Attraction, chemistry and compatibility is a two-way street and some guys assume it should be one sided when they're interested in you.

For the ladies in similar circumstances of being stuck in the south, look at the contrast of the men in the north to the Night and day, by that I mean nc is low on decent, educated, articulate legally single men that don't have a few illegitimate kids. I miss the north, just based on that. The guys down here scare me. I see so many women that have lessened and lowered their standards so much that they're broke down and look it. They will allow the low lifes to leech off of them and to just use them up.

These articles written by women on online dating are always cynically amusing to me. You get so many messages, and some of them are crude and offend you. Or, you get to go on a date and the guy is a jerk and offends you and it doesn't work out. Try being a guy. Try getting maybe one or two messages a month that are either from spambots or women ten years older than you that weigh more than you. One of the hidden powers of the internet is that it can collect information as well as display it.

The vast majority of men on these sites are not good enough for the desires of the vast majority of women, and despite "equality," men are expected to do the work, all of it. Many, many good men see that they are ignored by girls who are still looking for the hunks, and they check out. Some are still there, and will catch these women when "they're ready to settle down," but most will be too bitter and too wise to settle for a former party girl. Women say the worst thing that can happen is to be raped, but I don't think that is true.

I think the worst thing that can happen is to never be desired by anyone for your entire life. You narcissists need to own the society you made by your own efforts. I would love to see what you look like, as well as your height. Natural selection must clearly be at play in your failed attempts to get womens' interest and it is obviously irking you into misogyny. Sorry for your bad genetic luck. True man, women HATE nice men but proclaim to be seeking a "nice guy".

I am nice with no car and a crappy job. Try getting maybe one or two messages a month There are women who want to get to know you, talk to you, go out on a date with you, talk to you on the phone, see if you're a good man they want to have in your life.

You're just too stuck up to get to know them because you think you "deserve better. There are women interested in you. Get off your high horse and your pedestal, stop being so stuck up about physicality and age and talk to the nice women who took time to message you.

Interesting that isnt it, why should he be gratefull yet women be offended? A cousin was dating a 29 year old when he was My sisters all called her a perv to her face. Stop being so bitter that you splice and dice reality. Going online moaning might not sound like it affects dating but it does. Women can tell guys that moan about this apart from guys that have respect and other guys won't like you.

On the Viber group I'm on all male all the guys are fed up with guys that rabbit on about 'friendzone' and other imaginary concepts and won't be friend with guys like that. Overall you just shoot yourself in the foot with this bull crap.

Mate, the above article is actually understating some of the abuse women receive. One friend got tons of downright judgemental messages on one site for putting up a photo of her at a party on the basis of it "not being respectable".

Another got a torrent of abuse from one guy on Tinder as she wouldn't respond to the ever innovative 'hi' failing to understand that matching doesn't mean he owns her. Whenever I meet someone online I worry about scams - female friends have to worry about that PLUS where is safe to meet. It's all too common even offline - I was at a social event years ago where a guy threw a punch at a woman as she wouldn't sleep with him and I could hear him rant about how he had "earnt it" by chatting her up, and only for a female friend holding his arm he didn't connect.

But I'm sure it's just cynically amusing for me to go on about sexual aggression any more. To be fair the above advice on reading profile etc etc isn't exactly going to create a breakthrough. Google "Tolani Osan online dating first messages to reel them in" and read Tolani's article. Until I found this I never had a message reply. I was totally unconvinced but it worked practically instantly. I took a look at a female friend's inbox once and all it was was a collection of "hi" and boring messages.

One quite similar to the messages in the article stood out. I jokingly suggested she try that one - she already had responded. Internet dating isn't perfect but this may change your perspective. But also stop being so shallow - even if that supermodel wanted you, as soon as she sees that you moan about older women she won't want anything to do with you - this is always evident eventually from talking to someone when they are with friends.

I've seen this bitching at parties or when out - for some reason whenever I'm not single they hide in their room, but then as soon as I break up with someone they converge on me patronisingly telling me I'm too nice as if I've never heard that nonsense before and too this that and the other and using aggressive hand gestures in lieu of actual arguments or points to back their cause.

It always ends the same way with that tool going home alone to have a wank while the host agrees to never invite them again, and in one case it worked in my favour once in a nite club as a conversation starter where I wound up taking home the girl he was trying to get with.

Try not being that guy or at least if you are not, try not coming across that way. A woman 10 years older than you? How shocking and sexist! I have not dated an older man in years. None of them can keep up with me.

Why is it reasonable for a man to prefer a younger woman and not reasonable for a woman to prefer a younger man? How much do you weigh anyway? This is one of the funniest comments on this thread. I didn't mention this based on my latest from pof. The guy lives in a rural town about an hour and 20 minutes away. He and I have only been talking for about a week. He wanted to do Starbucks.

I'm not a coffee drinker and I'm finding out a lot of people actually hate doing meetup via Starbucks. They've said they felt like they were on a job interview and I agree. I've gone with a date not someone from pof , but it was the first date, prior to Starbucks everything felt okay, but thereafter he was firing off questions interview-style.

Back to this last guy, he seems okay, kind of formal, but that's fine. So initially he suggested Starbucks, so I'm thinking he wanted to do a meetup, which I don't really do as I'm not seeking quantity or talk to a bunch of guys down here and engage in the whole meet and greet thing.

So then he suggests that I drive to a desolate town where my cellphone coverage is sketchy and we could find something there. I say no due to: Not feeling comfortable with that.

Having sketchy phone coverage there. Driving over 30 minutes for me to meet him just didn't feel ideal. Not having any set agreed upon location. It's the south, I don't trust going strange out of way places that I'm not sure of.

So after that he suggested I drive an hour and 20 minutes to the closest city and we go out. I thought about it and to be honest being that I'm not sold on him, a date isn't going to sell me on him, if I'm already unsure about him. That date was scheduled for today. I let him know yesterday that I wouldn't be able to go. I think I want to go back to traditional dating and the chance of meeting someone. I feel like attractive women have to be so defensive online that you truly can't be yourself and then you encounter so many angry, bitter guys that are lashing out if there is no mutual reciprocity.

Not to mention those that will create another profile to continue to try to harass you. The married or involved guys that assume that every women should be at their disposal. Even when you preface that you are seeking friendship initially, guys don't care.

So if any lady is considering, think twice, but be prepared to put up with a lot of bs compiled with weeding through a ton of oddballs. Also be careful, if anything seems off or the guy seems pushy, listen to your gut. It by far has been the worst experience since I've relocated to the south.

I live in a small town, so I listed the next larger city, which is about an hour away. The main reason why as this is a small town comprised of many seeking sexual hookups, it's a military town which equates to a college town, most singles are seeking quantity not quality. I've tried pof and blackpeoplemeet, even though my experiences on pof have not been great. I wouldn't use that site for free. My experiences with pof haven't been great, but not as horrific as bpm.

I did encounter two stalker types, but it was when I first joined and listed my profile in the small town that I'm in.

Both guys seemed to have some sort of mental instability, the first being the worst and a potential Ike Turner waiting to happen. Met him once and during the date he seemed okay, a bit shy at first, but he started to open up. By the end of the date he asked me out again for that weekend and I accepted. That evening I got home from meeting him, I text him that I'm home and thank him for a nice evening.

I go to shower before bed and he calls while I'm in the shower, then he texts that he called. He did that a few more times. I noticed when I looked at my phone and text him back that I'm going to bed, that it's getting late. The next day while I'm at work, he calls and texts while I'm away from my phone. Although I text some, I'm not one that wants to live with my phone attached to me at all times and work does not permit personal cell phone use over productivity.

So he calls and texts a few more times. When I get a break I responded that I'm at work and cannot talk to which he replies that he'd prefer that I always answer his calls. I don't respond anymore until I leave work. He continued to text some more during the course of that day. When I got home I looked at all of the texts and my first thought was "he's crazy" and he's showing me that he's controlling, so I proceeded to let him know that he and I were not compatible. I wished him luck in meeting his compatible half and he proceeded to call and text until about midnight.

Long story short, women have a harder time if you're seeking compatibility and chemistry. I f you're not open to sexual hookups and you preface it, you'll probably be scrutinized and even get some hateful responses. Lava life was an awful experience for me. I not only found that offensive, but it was also scary to think about the amount of men out there that only care about having sex.

And a lot of these men said they were married on their profiles. After having absolutely no luck and not finding a single guy I was interested in, I deleted my account. I then tried zoosk. I thought that maybe if I paid to date online that I would find guys that were serious about dating and having a relationship. This was much to my dismay as well. I talked to one decent guy while I was on that website and we couldn't ever meet because he lived in Quebec and I'm in Ontario I got fed up with paying for basically nothing and deactivated my account.

After this disappointment, I gave up on dating entirely for quite some time. I thought the right guy will come along when he's supposed to. However, months went on of nothing and I decided to give plenty of fish a try.

I must say that there are definitely more men closer to my age on this site and while there are a few douches, there seem to be some really nice and decent guys on here. Watch out for the typical douche that's in his mid-late 20's and his pics are all of him at the gym flexing. These guys will typically ask if you're interested in being their submissive sex slave wherein they 'own' you. They're arrogant and seem to be surface level. I hate stereotypes and I'm sure there are decent guys with these kinds of profiles but I have yet to see it.

In addition to that, there are guys who seem to be possessive and get offended when you don't respond to them. Word of advice guys, getting mad at a woman for not being interested or responding to you will not help your case whatsoever. And you need to understand that us women get more than 50 messages a day, we can respond and be genuinely interested in each and every one of you, we would lose track of our conversations.

The bottom line is that the right woman will respond to you someday and you'll just have to be patient with us because we also have anxiety about online dating. It's scary to think about meeting a man that you've never seen in person before. We can be very apprehensive about who we choose to respond to for this reason.

And that's not to say that we all have a preconceived notion that all men are out to hurt us because that's not the case, but it's definitely food for thought before going out on that first date. You must understand that it's a two way street and just because you message someone, doesn't mean that we're obligated to respond.

Also, for all the women reading this, if you come across a man's profile that you like, you can always start a conversation with them too if you're so inclined! As for the nice guys, they will take the time to read your profile and message you about a common interest you have. Or they will ask questions about you and genuinely try to get to know you.

They should have manners and compliment you in a gentlemanly way, not in a perverse manner. I'm actually supposed to meet someone this week and I feel quite confident in saying that he's one of the good ones on plenty of fish.

Obviously I think it's obvious which dating website I would recommend, and that would be plenty of fish for sure. There seems to me more options for everyone! And while there are some men who are not genuine, it's fairly easy to weed out the good from the bad. The only real question here is: If there's so many bad messages, why are the good ones ignored?

I've been on ten dating sites in 3 years and I'm still looking. You want to talk about not enough time to read messages? Try having to write them. After so long I got tired of trying to be original and became a human spam bot. It's a lot of work for either gender but ladies don't insult me. You're going to have to wade through messages either way. You're going to have to put in some effort. It is a preferred meeting place of prominent locals, business people, celebrities and athletes.

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The profiles may be old or fabricated. I am finishing up a 6 month membership with them. The rates are reasonable. Again, for every 15 ladies you contact with thoughtfully crafted, sincere messages, expect to hear back from ladies. Then , due to the competition, communication with a lady can very easy come to a halt with you wondering why this is so, where did she go? I did meet a couple of ladies from this site but disappointing considering my efforts. I have not tried it yet.

However, I previewed the ladies on this site. They appear very nice, but I have seen that before. I did notice however, that quite a few of the ladies about 60 yrs.

Why is this so? Again, it points to the numerical imbalance favoring the ladies. I am financially and emotionally responsible.

That said, the odds on dating sites count against me and make success a needle in a haystack. It is difficult for men and I am sure that females have their own issues such as security. In life, career, etc. I get along with ladies just fine.

On dating sites, being ignored, lied to, deceived etc. I tried match and it is a waste of time, talk about unrealistic. I thought we women as we get older must be the problem but those types of men, and there are plenty definitely have and are the problem. So dating sites may work for a few but for the most part I would say no.

Phil, you sound really nice and sincere. I disagree with you Phil. I have just started with these dating sites about a month ago and am already turned off by all the fake profiles. The men that I have corresponded with have not been anything to write home about.

The last jerk and yes he was a jerk completely forgot that we had made plans to meet only two days after we talked. When I sent him a text confirming, he responded with I completely forgot all about it. If he changed his mind, he should have been a big boy about it and been honest with me. Instead his reply made me feel awful. And this is a man in his 50s.

I thought guys would have grown up by that age. Well, probably not on these websites. I find the problem with many men.. They take pix with rumpled shirts.. Or their profile pix shows them far away.. I partially agree with you in most areas. I turned 72 in July and after a 46 year marriage, ending in his death, I finally put my self out there.

I dated a few, not so interesting men, and then I met the one. After 6 months I realized he has Alzheimer and his family moved him back home. Several months later I met a real heart breaker. We dated for 10 months and I fell head over heals in love with him only for him to go back to his ex-wife.

You just have to week-out the fake, I guess. I think mine has run out and I just need to move on!!! You may be right, Joan….

No companionship, enjoyment of life with another. I cannot speak for all males. They do not know about manners or how to properly respect women. Sorry you experience this. However, my being polite and honest may be setting myself up to be deceived, as ironic as that may sound. You seem pretty well educated in this area. Hi Phil I know how you feel. Locations would be nice here. We could stop wasting time with people from demographic areas that are out of reach.

Yes, I know, planes go everywhere, however, I need to be on land first: Where are you Phil? Hi Phil, We women also experience a degree of frustration with online dating as well. Why you ask women want , sex. Where are you located at Phil?? I am Phil, a disillusioned fellow who tried internet dating. I have been honest with ladies but in a few instances have been met with deceit and fabrications.

A lady tells me I seem like such a nice fellow but she has met someone she wants to give a chance to. They have had 3 dates. However, this lady, and it has happened twice to me, remains on 2 dating sites for months. In both instances, I wish them well and say the fellow they have chosen is a lucky gentleman. I strongly believe they are just fabricating this new relationship that they mention to me.. Why would both of these ladies keep their profile up if their story were true?

Honestly, I have heard other stories too. In regular life, I really do not encounter people being as deceptive, evasive, or inconsistent. I had the same done to me and I believe that telling you they met someone else is a way for some women to reject you nicely. So they fabricate the story of meeting someone new. I know that many of these women connect with multiple males at once because it boosts their ego.

I had connected with a few who would ask me a question and I would reply only to wait for them to respond for over an hour to answer each time due to them corresponding with other men. It does not make sense. Is there enough men like this floating around on dating sites, that a fellow like me is easily discarded. I know how important aesthetics are on dating sites.

I try to communicate with ladies who would be in my league. However, dating sites give the ladies the advantage. However, i do realize that ladies have issues regarding security, I do get that. As a 62 year old woman, I find it near to impossible to meet anyone even remotely within my area who ARE someone I would like to get to know better.

I care nothing for one night stands, nor friends with benefits people. I just am not that type of person. I can do that myself. But a nice companion for dinners and movies would be nice. It seems however that men my age want someone in the bracket. Who does one trust? At this point, after e harmony, Match. I totally understand your comments.. I paiid Our Time 6months met one man and after month talking..

I was so shocked after xoffee I never spoke to him again… So many years younger pics they post… Be honest post current pics.

Hey everyone I was on Our time 3 different times and all 3 times met great guys or so I thought the first only lasted a couple of months he wanted to be possessive. I have decided to reenter the dating game after 15 years of keeping silent and to myself with family.

I just woke up one day and decided at 66, I want to meet a man that has similar likes and dislikes as me. I have a small farm that I dearly love working on and grow all my food, including chickens. It is almost impossible to find a man that likes this sort of lifestyle, much less wants to be involved in it. The perfect partner for me would certainly be a small farmer that loves the soil and works it with love every day. He would also have to like salt water fishing because next to the soil that is a big love of mine as well.

So it is not going to happen for me unless I take the time and pursue this in places where farmers and fishing are prevalent. Therefore, I will begin to go to those farmer days and outings and I will spend lots more time at the beach fishing. If I meet someone special that is great. Good luck to everyone looking and be safe always. Hi Linda, thanks for your comment. Linda I totally identify with what you said.

In up state NY my options are almost non existent Love to fish be in the oods and grow things. As I read your comment,I felt a little ftustrated. I have the same comments about these sites as everyone else. I was on Farmers Only for several months and experienced much disappointment. In my profile,I stated who and what I was and that I desired to connect with woman who enjoyef rural life.

Truly believe most women on that site were looking for a dtugstore cowboy with a new shiny truck. None of the women on Farmers say they wanted to meet a man with rural roots which I found rather odd. You just have to keep turning stones. Strange but unlike most comments here I have found the dating sites overwhelmingly populated by cougars.

The 61 yr old female looking for 25 to 50 yr old men. I no longer frequent any of them since most ladies never respond to any show of interest but keep coming back to view my profile but never leaving a message at all. One thing I am not looking for is more frustration in my life. Marsha Your message is exactly how i feel. Still full time employed and self sufficient, divorced for over 12 years. Not interested in sleeping around.

Just want companionship for events, listening to oldies music from the 70s, trips and just exchange experiences and laugh a lot. But looks like there are NO men going for that. Ive decided to just join cultural, gardening and volunteer groups where I can meet people face to face.

However, this article is extremely honest and well written. You have to keep safe and keep playing. Lots of people I know are now part of a twosome. Oh Really am new to all this i have also meet a lady that posted her old pictures when she was young. After reading some of the shared comments, I would like to add my two cents worth. It does seem to be challenging to meet quality people for me -men that would like to have q good relationship with a good woman Their mouth or pen is moving. What is wrong with getting to know a person first?

Finding out if you like each other enough to forsake others and try to see if you two can make a go of it? At our age we should have experience enough life to know what basically is negotiable vs is nonnegotiable. How about being comfortable with not only who you are, but where you are in life? No, I am not talking about sitting all day in a rocker and playing dead. But , enjoying life with whatever disabilities, lumps bumps, etc. Now a days-there seems to be more inference on sex than anything else.

Sex-when has that ever determine the value of any relationship? Whatever happen to wanting to get to know one another? Which can lead to true friendship and companionship. Do you remember when you could talk to each other about everything and nothing-but still enjoying just being together? How about when you were looking across the room at each other , and sharing that special smile -that special look that said so much?. Yet to others, it said nothing-but to you two ahhh-it was like a secret code that only the two of you knew.

Well, Steve Harvey always says the 90 day rules applies to everyone. Yes Dorene I agree with you as well. I love Steve Harvey and own both of his books on relationships.

What he is saying makes a lot of sense. I was in a very bad marriage for 26 years that was hard for me to get out of as my ex was abusive in very many ways. Since I have been out in the dating world I find that everything seems to have changed. But after 26 years I was sure it would be. When I left my ex and found a gentleman who truly was a gentleman and waited to approach me about being intimate. It may have not been the 90 days but it was a while and we dated for four years. So now I hope that I can find someone who would at least give the relationship time instead of hopping in the sack.

I see a psychologist because of my past and let him know of what I am finding in this new world of dating. The bottom line is men and there are women as well are not respectful of one another anymore. I wish everyone well with their searches and may God bless you. What a well written post, and I totally agree with everything that you said.

What happened to men who respected you for the person you are and enjoyed being in your company for the purpose of conversation and connecting mentally? Does anyone believe in companionship or friendship anymore? Would love to meet a man with honest values and one who is capable of making a commitment. Men Do want younger women and younger men want Sugar Mamas! These dating sites have been a joke. Just stumbled upon this site, loving it.

Well I just stumbled onto this site too. I appreciate the thoughtfulness and honesty of the posts here Your post is something i could have said too about women.

I think the sad truth is that most people are not capable of having a truly intimate relationship. It seems the older people are, the more it is true. Most people become more rigid the older they get, and certainly more set in their ways, making them less likely to give up the freedom they have as a single person. I think most of us like the idea of being in a loving relationship.

What i have found out is that finding someone who can actually show up when the heat is on and wants to be with me, and i want to be with her is rare, especially being over sixty.

Having a personality and mutual respect is what the foundation should be for any relationship regardless of the age of those involved. It is true that the men are seeking sex….. Just be honest if u want a friend with benefits then let the guy know. If u are not into the guy, pay your own way on the date and move on down the line. No gentleman wants to be considered as an entertainment center at this point in his life and would hope that the woman in his company actually enjoyed his company and was not simply with him for A Night out and a free meal.

Of course, it is my belief that doing the everyday things of life….. Will let us know if we are compatible with one another…. Sitting across from you at some restaurant tells me nothing about you except your table manners. For me at this stage of my life …66…. Best of luck to each of you…. After reading some of the comments about online dating sites I would like to make a comment about Plenty of Fish. I thought it was a really good website until I got kicked off because all of my emails from them kept going in my spam.

Try to get back on there and it is next to impossible. I have written to them several times to see if they could help me get back on. The scammers are everywhere on all of these sites. I was almost scammed 3 times I am ashamed to admit but they are very devious! I am 61 years old and find that most of the men I talk to have nothing but sex on their mind. I think our world is going to hell really quick. It is very depressing and I wish there were more honest people on these sites and not jerks!

Needless to say I am still looking for a good man. In March when I officially retire I think I am going to start looking at activities through churches and community buildings to try to meet people. It seems to me that would be the only way to meet someone as I am not a bar hopper or nor do I go to clubs.

Good luck everyone on finding your soul mate! Kevin Gillham it is good to hear there are good men out there. I am sorry that your marriage ended the way it did.

I have stopped going on the online dating sites. I was diagnosed with another health issue that I have confronted and in the process have lost forty pounds and am doing really well. I know my problems were due to an abusive marriage and now I am feeling more confident about myself. I enjoyed your feedback and hope to hear from you again. Hi Kevin Same thing happened to me. Hi Kevin, yOu sOund like the man every woman dream of. I bet yOur not alone anymore.

This is the First time I visited this site…. And out of curiousity i read many of the comments and the replies… there seems to be quite a bit of confusion about sex and indivuales …. I agree with you on almost E very thing that you said. If you live near or close to , we can bond and explore.. Thanks and God bless! I wish you the best of luck! New also and none of this real sounds like it is even worth the effort.

Thank you very much. I think it more says, well I want to know what I will get for my dollar coffee and of course my one hour of invested time. I hear the women and the men and my view for what its worth sounds like both are a little defensive, with good cause.

You may find a treasure or merely a friend. You will have gotten to know another person. Enough said, no lecture intended. Most men are jerks. Most men get older but not necessarily more mature. Most men never learn how to be friends first with women.

Most men are too concerned with sex as if sex is the answer to everything. I was looking for compatibility and connection, for communication, for shared interests and values. If you had read my profile on OK Cupid, if you had answered a few hundred questions, like I did, it would be easy for you to determine that I was a quality guy. What matters is that you carefully weed out the wheat from the chaff.

You just have to sort out the frogs from the princes. Not all women on these sites are prizes either. There is usually a good reason or two why women are single later in life. I think what our society does in general to men is not conducive to making them good in relationships.

Men are told not to cry, not to show emotion, not to be vulnerable. I was just lucky to be born into a culture that rejects that view of men and teaches respect, if not adulation, for women. The larger issue is how men get to be the way they are.

You know the old saying, about the hand that rocks the cradle can change the world? There are good men out there, like me.

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